Godzilla 2014 vs. Godzilla Resurgence official debate thread

Borenstein has written Godzilla(2014) and Kong: Skull Island (2017) also the graphic novel Godzilla Awakening. Plus his gonna write the upcoming sequel Godzilla King of the Monsters. He has said in multiple interviews that it's canon and Legendary Pictures and Gareth Edwards support that.

http://www.superherohype.com/features/301379-interview-max-borenstein-writer-of-godzilla-and-legendarys-prequel-graphic-novel#/slide/1

^ That's proof enough. You can pretend that Max isn't in the credits for those films. Doesn't mean your right. 

Plus I never said novelization. I said he wrote the novel. As in Graphic Novel.

Seriously get your facts straight. 

Anyways I already gave my thoughts on who would win, which was better at representing the character and it's rich history, and which film was better.

He's a co-writer, not the full on writer. I'm sure his brother probably had more to do with writing the comic book. He was contacted last minute after the films script was completed and already shooting. Max Boring-stein was also a co-writer for Kong not the full script writer. Same will be said for 2019and the best part is, he's not on the 2020 team for script writing. 

Ok. So you said you prefer legendary over Shin. That's your right. But, g14 is very much a millennium film with Hollywood effects at best and it's sad older films before it did it better. As for me, Shin Godzilla blows 2014 out of the water by a mile margin. Also, Shin had more engaging characters than 2014. 

Yeah I didn't  see any character's in Shin. Unless you count that girl smiling at the end of the movie when she didn't the entire time character development.

G14 as the garbage Millennium series? Yeah that's super far off in way to many ways. But whatever it's your opinion. 

Max still wrote and is credited to those films. Respectively of course. 

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Rando Yaguchi (Hiroki Hasegawa) is our main character of the film. Period. The girl you saw smile? Which one? We had Satomi Ishihara who was Kayoko Ann Patterson, we had Jun Kudamari who was our military general that also played in Godzilla Final Wars 2004, you forget him? That's just a very short list of characters. Hell, the PM was more engaging than Ford ever could be.

A garbage millennium film? I'm still sorry but it's true. I mean, G14 was like an American attempt at Terror of mechagodzilla 1975 and came up short. 

Ha terror of mecha godzilla huh? Now that's ridiculous in way to many levels. Plus yes I completely forgot every name in Shin Godzilla. There was so many and so many boardroom meetings that I lost track and interest. My second viewing I paid closer attention and still board the me to no end.

Ford was stoic and generally level headed, even in stressful situations. However, he ended up breaking his stoic demeanor a few times; namely when Joseph was gravely injured from the M.U.T.O.'s arrival, when he contacted Elle shortly before undertaking the train operation, and lastly, when he reunited with her in the aftermath of Godzilla's fight with the M.U.T.O.s.

Despite these breaks in his generally stoic attitude, he's depicted as being conscious of knowing when and where grieving and emotional outbursts are acceptable, and is capable of being ready to shove his personal issues aside in order to pay attention to a greater issue.

He's also very selfless and resourceful, having voluntarily stayed behind as his military comrades pushed forward with their goal, so he could create a makeshift explosive that would end up destroying the M.U.T.O. nest and saving Godzilla's life inadvertently.

^ That was a actual character unlike every character in Shin. There's way to many that it doesn't even compare. 

Ok then. What's the story about? Family matters? I guess. Ridiculous? As for what being ridiculous? Comparing it to a far superior film? Yeah, that's ridiculous. I'm sorry I compared it to Terror of mechagodzilla. 

Ford hiding his emotions doesn't mean a great character. In fact, that's just boring. Elle, what did she do? Look out for her child? Yes, but still nothing more relevant to the film. Looking out for your child is one thing, getting more involved with what's happening is another. At least team Yaguchi participated in doing something meaningful for the film I'm Shin Godzilla. 

Yeah you thinking that Terror of MechaGodzilla is a superior film is all you buddy. To me TOMG is a stupid, cheesy movie with horrible suits and extremely outdated even by the standards of the year that it was made.

Shin is as basic as any 50s monster movie. It has absolutely no character's, and has major changes to the character that it copies from other monsters. Losing it's own identity. 

Also most military man hide there emotions for the mission. Ford literally acts just like my cousin. I relate way more with Ford then anything in Shin Godzilla. Yes Elle was a story component for Ford. A mother who takes care of her child is something that is relatable. It even reflects Ford when he sees the little boy separated from his family and saw his own within him. He took it apon himself to make sure that kid will be reunited with his family. Just like how he hopes he would be soon.

As characters go, I would have loved to see Fords father remain alive. Brian Cranston gave an excellent performance, in reality seeing him be able to help destroy the MUTO's in the end would have felt much better than seeing Ford do it. After seeing his wife die right before his eyes, making a huge sacrifice to save others, then living like a crackpot for years, losing his relationship with his son and grandson, it would have been way better to see him gain revenge against the monsters that destroyed his family by destroying the MUTO babies. It would have been poetic justice. Then at the end be reunited with his son and grandson. That would have been way better character development and story telling. Ford I felt did not possess those abilities to drive a movie to that. It fell short in my opinion.

I think it would be a close battle.  You have the agility of G14 but the quick evolution, and larger array of attacks from Shin.  Shin would be on top when all is said and done. 

Unless Wikizilla led me to a false conclusion, I'm pretty sure Shin Godzilla can't even be killed. Its implied he's just sleeping at the end of the film and that parts of him can regenerate implying asexual reproduction. Legendary Godzilla is cool and all, but he's a more mundane creature, which is ironic, given how he's hyped up as a god in the KotM trailer. 

I have to go with Godzilla 2014. First of all, he has way longer arms then 16s arms. Second, he is way faster, Shin Gojira is just to slow in a fight. 

I would go with Godzilla 2014.

I would go with Godzilla 2014.

Shin Godzilla

2014

Both are fairly strong, shin is overpowered, but his energy regen is very slow. 2014 is not as strong, but is faster. 2014's weakness is also partly due to the mutos' EMP pulse, so he could have been much stronger. They are both awesome and idk who would win.

Technically the godzilla 2014 is a foot smaller than shin but if he is 2019 or 2021 that they be the same size I think

The battle is all bout strategy so I'm pretty sure godzilla will kill shin because godzilla has more intelligence and shin. Mmm idk

Yes there is more going on upstairs with Godzilla 2014 then Shin's dead blank stares