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Debate Week season 4 finale! Godzilla (2014 vs Godzilla (1992)

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This is it, the finale of the season! The ultimate King of All Monsters vs the Ultimate King of All Monsters...

Lets begin with the Legendary Godzilla.

Legendary Godzilla blast's away the competition.

Legendary Godzilla's sheer body mass was able to bring forth a tsunami onto Honolulu. Godzilla 2014's strength is immense he was able to distrupt the movement of the 480,000 ton Golden gate bridge with just one hand.

Godzilla 2014's durabillity is immense, as he showed the strength to tank the (Some say it was not Castle bravo but since we are using max feats im using Castle bravo as the nuke since its heavily debated) Castle bravo Nuclear warhead with minimal to no damage.

Godzilla 2014 also if you count the Godzilla: Awakening novel as canon (Once again heavily debated not confirmed either way but using it for max strength level) Permian meteor the largest Asteroid to ever hit earth apparently landed on one of his spikes, and he semmed uneffected.

Now Godzilla 2014's durabillity is immense for explosive pellet like weapons, but his skin can be pierced.

The Muto's Godzilla 2014's prey and arch nemisis's were able to stab through his skin with there samurai blade esque hook hands, now this doesnt weaken Godzilla at all its just that the Mutos Hooks have more piercing capabillity then say a Nuclear Bomb.

For more on this subject please visit my thread Godzilla 2014 vs Heisei feats and facts given!

Godzilla 2014 fights mainly by biting pushing, bite pushing, bite pushing building body slam, and also the use of his jagged claws.

Godzilla 2014's endurance surpasses the rest as he swam from the center of the earth all the way to Hawaii, fought the Male Muto, then chased him down to San fransisco battled 2 visceral ferocious demonic beasts for 8 hours with no break...And won.

Wait there is more! He then got up and swam back to the center of the earth from San Fransisco...

Godzilla 2014's Atomic breath remain's not shown at its full strength, however from what we experienced it's capable of melting the internal organs of the Female Muto and also burning her forehead.

Godzilla 2014 has the strength of a incredibley powerful beast, but onto 92.

Godzilla 1992's power can indeed step to G 14.

Godzilla 1992 follows the same strengths as his other Heisei predessescor, Great Atomic Breath, great durabillity, outstanding strength.

But Godzilla 1992 suffers from not being able to think fast enough, as he was just standing there as Battra carried a Farriswheel from about 20 feet away to him, and he got hit by the slowly being carried farriswheel.

So no offense but he is kind of lackluster.

92's main aspect to him is his Durabillity, he was able to step to two beam spammers and was although getting punched around win.

for the rest on RadoGoji! please visit the link.

This has been Debate week season 4! I really hope you all enjoyed this season i sure did and had alot of fun for two weeks, lets shoot for 20 replies? See you all, in season 5!

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TheGMan123
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Legendary Goji shook the 480,000 ton Golden Gate Bridge with one hand, just easily pushed around the Female and immobilized her with his jaws. as well as survived the Permian Meteor landing on him perfectly fine. I'd say that makes his strength greater than what people normally think. As well, the radiation breath of Heisei Goji, though would possibly damage Legendary Goji, would also feed him due to being radiation based.

The damage may somewhat outstrip the radiation content, but it's enough of a ratio to prevent it from completely downing Legendary Goji. As well, the bulk of Legendary Goji is enough that even despite how powerful Heisei Goji is, Legendary Goji could just as easily stand up to that power, being able to push him around more easily than the Female due to his 60,000 ton mass compared to her 75,000 ton mass, all considered unless he can manage to push back in time.

Thus, a physical brawl is a close deal, though Legendary's slightly enhanced mobility and larger size means he'll be able to top Heisei Goji. Then the breaths. The radiation content of Heisei's means that he won't be doing as much damage as he'd like to to the radiation-eating Legendary.Then what happens when one of them goes down? Well, that's an interesting question.

The Heisei Goji, due to the suit limitations, is very immobile on the ground. Legendary isn't much better, but he has better footing due to more articulate limbs. If Heisei is grounded, Legendary can stomp him into submission. If Legendary is grounded, Heisei will blast him into submission. This fight is closer than many think. I see it going either way, depending on who hits who first.

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I've heard sheer power/strength at least 3 times in this debate. Who's to say legendary doesn't have sheer power either? And the damages dealt to legendary were physical, he was impaled by the Mutos claws countless times. There have been times where Heisi's hide was impaled as if it were butter. And like you said, they were switching to back up power, in other words it had no way to help itself as Heisi threw mecha g. And i don't think heisi would still be standing after a 90,000 ton monster rams him. The amount of force would just topple him, it would lift him off his feet, knocking him back a couple hundred meters. And he dealt with ghidorah in the air with his atomic breath, on the ground ghidorah only had it's heads to counter, no arms. And legendary didn't get knocked down by claws, he was attacked from behind by the male and then rammed by the female

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Wouldn't*

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Who's to say legendary doesn't have sheer power either?

The problem is if we haven't seen it then there's no proof. You can't bring speculation into a sizing up argument when we haven't actually scene it ourselves. The point is moot.

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Tanked a nuke, walked through the Golden Gate Bridge, brought forth a tsunami, fought 2 enemies at once, had a giant building fall on him. Went through all that and went back to the sea.

 

Nuff said

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Yay 20 posts my goal! Thank you all so much, here is to season 5!

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Don't forget moved the bridge singlehandedly and had a giant meteor several kilometers across land right on him and be fine C:

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DannyBlazor,
None of which the Heisei Godzilla hadn't already done or more of before.

The argument, "Who's to say the Legendary Godzilla doesn't have sheer power either?" is like me saying, "How do we know Heisei isn't more powerful than we've seen on screen." You can't prove either because we never saw it. Stick to what we saw.

Gman123,
That's only if you consider the meteor cannon. Which unless I'm willing to consider the countless other comic tie-ins cannon that eventuall contradicted themselves, I do not. Therefor I do not recognize the meteor goofiness.

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Ah, but it's an official comic tie-in. Those others? Not really pertaining to this Heisei Goji anyways, and mainly non-canon officially. It's the absolute best feat we have for Legendary Goji, and, going by DB ruling, is allowed if it's the same character. Being a a recognized tie-in using the same trademarked character, unless proven non-canon otherwise by official sources at a later date conclusively, can be used as a part of the analysis of the Legendary Godzilla's feats.

Besides that, Legendary Goji already has enormous strength and durability feats that match up or possibly surpass that of Heisei Goji. Legendary could easily push Heisei around if he can grapple with Heisei quickly enough before the 90s Goji pushes back, which he can given his slightly higher relative speed.

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^If you want to go by comic tie-ins, then you'll have to agree with the tie-ins during the Showa series that automatically make the Showa Godzilla the most powerful incarnation and Gigan's real name Borodan. So, if you say so.

If it's not seen on screen it's not cannon. Official tie-in, does not equal canon. It means it's an official product. The Godzilla toy unlatches the top of its head from its body to fire the atomic ray and it's an offical tie-in as well. So I guess Godzilla unlatching his top jaw in a jovial fashion is now canonical as well.

 

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*facepalm* Show me those Showa comics. I wanna see if that's a real thing that's actually a recognized part of the Showa era and has not been refuted as non-canon yet.

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30 replies? YESS!

Good grief.

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Don't want anything to seem like an argument here. But I hate seeing this as a one sided fight. Legendary is a lot stronger than what you're thinkng Gman. Faster, smarter, brute, and a powerhouse all around. All 92 has going for him is his breath and the the endurance which legendary may have more of because of him tanking that meteor. Even if it is canon, surviving a nuke and being stabbed and pounded for minutes straight by two other monsters is enough for me to say that legendary has good defense also. If we were talking about Godzilla 2001 vs Legendary then it would be a no brainer to who would win that fight (2001)

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Talking to Gman2887 if there's any confusion.

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@Dannyblazor,

Dude, with all due respect, legendary godzilla has no chance at all against the heisei godzilla. You have to rember that this is the same creature from 84-95. The nuclear pulse as you stated in your first post would knock legendary goji back. Secondly, the heisei godzilla has like what durp said, super healing abilities, that would were legendary goji out very quickly.

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By the way 2001 as in Gmk right? If that godzilla can beat legendary then so can the most powerful incarnations ever, that being all of the heisei godzillas. Or again 84-95.

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@gorillagodzilla,

Please check your scified inbox. :)

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Indeed, Legendary has the strength physical and mental skill to step to Heisei. But that blasted Healing is what take the cake for Heisei.

Good grief.

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GG,

Sticky?

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.......

Good grief.

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