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Debate Week season 4 finale! Godzilla (2014 vs Godzilla (1992)

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MemberGiganNov-06-2014 7:09 AM

This is it, the finale of the season! The ultimate King of All Monsters vs the Ultimate King of All Monsters...

Lets begin with the Legendary Godzilla.

Legendary Godzilla blast's away the competition.

Legendary Godzilla's sheer body mass was able to bring forth a tsunami onto Honolulu. Godzilla 2014's strength is immense he was able to distrupt the movement of the 480,000 ton Golden gate bridge with just one hand.

Godzilla 2014's durabillity is immense, as he showed the strength to tank the (Some say it was not Castle bravo but since we are using max feats im using Castle bravo as the nuke since its heavily debated) Castle bravo Nuclear warhead with minimal to no damage.

Godzilla 2014 also if you count the Godzilla: Awakening novel as canon (Once again heavily debated not confirmed either way but using it for max strength level) Permian meteor the largest Asteroid to ever hit earth apparently landed on one of his spikes, and he semmed uneffected.

Now Godzilla 2014's durabillity is immense for explosive pellet like weapons, but his skin can be pierced.

The Muto's Godzilla 2014's prey and arch nemisis's were able to stab through his skin with there samurai blade esque hook hands, now this doesnt weaken Godzilla at all its just that the Mutos Hooks have more piercing capabillity then say a Nuclear Bomb.

For more on this subject please visit my thread Godzilla 2014 vs Heisei feats and facts given!

Godzilla 2014 fights mainly by biting pushing, bite pushing, bite pushing building body slam, and also the use of his jagged claws.

Godzilla 2014's endurance surpasses the rest as he swam from the center of the earth all the way to Hawaii, fought the Male Muto, then chased him down to San fransisco battled 2 visceral ferocious demonic beasts for 8 hours with no break...And won.

Wait there is more! He then got up and swam back to the center of the earth from San Fransisco...

Godzilla 2014's Atomic breath remain's not shown at its full strength, however from what we experienced it's capable of melting the internal organs of the Female Muto and also burning her forehead.

Godzilla 2014 has the strength of a incredibley powerful beast, but onto 92.

Godzilla 1992's power can indeed step to G 14.

Godzilla 1992 follows the same strengths as his other Heisei predessescor, Great Atomic Breath, great durabillity, outstanding strength.

But Godzilla 1992 suffers from not being able to think fast enough, as he was just standing there as Battra carried a Farriswheel from about 20 feet away to him, and he got hit by the slowly being carried farriswheel.

So no offense but he is kind of lackluster.

92's main aspect to him is his Durabillity, he was able to step to two beam spammers and was although getting punched around win.

for the rest on RadoGoji! please visit the link.

This has been Debate week season 4! I really hope you all enjoyed this season i sure did and had alot of fun for two weeks, lets shoot for 20 replies? See you all, in season 5!

Good grief.

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TheGMan123
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When it comes to melee, LegendaryGoji has him beat. He's bigger, and more aggressive in physical combat. He'll use his mass more effectively against Heisei if it comes to CQC. However, if at range, then Heisei Goji can down LegendaryGoji from a distance. Really, it comes down to who can down the other fastest before the other can make use of their effective range. Overall though?

I'd say LegendaryGoji has this. This Heisei Goji doesn't yet have the devastating Spiral Ray, so LegendaryGoji could whether it long enough to get in close and really do some damage.

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Thank God that's over with....Sheesh!!

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Now this is a tough one, legndary has like thegman said, has the close range with him, then again, rado could also do some damage a close range, and he has the nucluer pulse, and his longe range seems better the legendaty, but again we dont know if it could do better than what we saw. So am gonna say a tie, they could just kill each other and both die, rado could win, or legendary could win, but am puting my money on rado, just because he could spam his breath attack on legendary. but then again, close range is questionable on who would win.

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'92. It's still the Heisei Godzilla, the same creature from 84-95. He may not have the same abilities from 93-95, but his sheer power alone is enough to take '14 out.

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Even though LegendaryGoji is my favorite Godzilla (next to the original), I'm gonna have to go with BatoGoji. 

 

BatoGoji swam underground in magma, took many hits without flinching, and likes to spam his Atomic Breath. At close range he has that pulse he emits. 

Although LegendaryGoji is smarter, and it would be a close match, he'd lose. 

 

sorry, LegendaryGoji!

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Batogoji wins, Legendary Goji is suposed to be very old and he looks much weaker than any heisei Godzilla

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Pretty much what gman, jrr, and danielle said. Sorry legendary goji.

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Legendary Goji is bigger but that's about all he has going for him. Batogoji is pretty much an upgrade in every other category.

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BatoGoji would win a good figh against the new Godzilla. LegendaryGoji seems to use his Atomic Breath at a last-resort move, and I've noticed some of the older Godzillas use the Atomic Breath a lot. Even though LegendaryGoji has size, (possibly) intelligence, and quick-thinking oh his side, BatoGoji's durability and attacks would defeat LegendaryGoji.

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Sorry but g 92

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92 is slow and wobbly. Legendary is a brawler. Don't see how you guys made this a one sided fight. 92 has the upper hand in the atomic breath but that's about it. Legendary will just keep biting and tossing him around.

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And if you noticed, legendary grabbed the female muto's neck in the movie when they first started fighting. Imagine if he did that to 92. He could just lay him on the ground and beat the crap out of him. If a nuke couldn't harm legendary then I doubt the 92 pulse attack would phase him at all.

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Dannyblazor you seem you forget heisei Godzilla is extremely physically strong too. He's hurled monsters heavier than the legendary Godzilla away without a problem. Lengendary Godzilla was knocked down and beaten on simply by the mutos, he also collapsed after a building fell on him only having the strength to get back up an suppress the female, who was distracted, long enough to kill her then collapsed again for hours. 

There seems to be this assumption the Lengendary Godzilla who had trouble with two smaller monsters is this great brawler. Heisei Godzilla has shown in his fights he's just as capable close up as far away. Throwing a 150,000 ton MechaGodzilla II(60,000 more tons than what Legendary weighs) battling Biollante who had vines able to pierce his skin. The fact is heisei Godzilla is a monster close range fighter too there was just no need to do it when he beam was all around more convenient. 

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Legendary was double teamed and was pounded for minutes straight. And continued fighting. When heisi gets knocked down, it's hard for him to get on two feet again due to his figure. And he's been knocked down numerous times. And every monster that heisi fought, that couldn't fly, we're slow. Very slow. Legendary even when walking is faster than every monster on the list. And we've only gotten a taste of what he can really do. Wait for the sequel where he goes up against ghidorah

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I think speed matters to a lot of these opponents when their sheer power could out-class the Legendary Godzilla. I mean why would SpaceGodzilla both when it can just pick him up with his telekenisis  and throw him into a building-- Which tend to tire him out pretty easily.

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It would be close, but the only way Goji14 is taking down Goji90's is if he punctures his sacral brain... and unless he figures out how to fashion his tail into a crude spear, thats not happening...

Sorry Goji14, but you loose... JUST BARELY, but you loose. :(

Poor guy...

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Okay? Does 92 have telekinesis? No, all he has that can hurt legendary from a distance is his atomic breath. Even though it's stronger than legendary's, it wouldn't kill him. If legendary gets close it's over for 92. He's slower and doesn't have the articulation to counter attacks from legendary. 

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You don't need telekenesis when you have the strength to physically pick him up and throw him which heisei does. Like I said he threw, that's right picked him up off the ground and threw Mechag. He could do that same with Legendary if he ever got close. What about Legendary's fighting style requires articulation? He's not the black belt Godzilla final wars or showa was. He just charged at the mutos and overpowered them. Not much to it.

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Each time heisi threw his enemy, the enemy was either wounded or not functional. In this case, mecha g was not functional. Legendary does use articulation. Examples would be: knee'ing the female MUTO, quickly grabbing the enemy, opening the mouth, etc. And he excels at ramming/bulldozing the enemy. Imagine legendary running and ramming heisi head first. From the front I don't think it would knock him over due to his posture and the tail behind him. From the sides and back, heisi will be out amd unable to get up and legendary can stomp on his face numerous times (godzilla smash 3).

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You seem to ignore the fact that he has the sheer strength required to pick up something that heavy, and Mechag was functional, it has still standing and they switched to backup power. Grabbing a distracted enemy and opening it's mouth doesn't really say much. Would there be humans distracting heisei Godzilla like they were the mutos since that's the only way heisei wouldn't be facing Legendary Godzilla. What if heisei's atomic breath knocks legendary down? He doesn't get up any faster than heisei does, only difference is that heisei has super healing when he gets knocked down. Like I said you can't ram a monster that is stronger than you you'll just get tossed back, and he's not so fast he could ram heisei before he could react. As I said he dealt with Rodan and Ghidorah who outflew jets so if he could react to their movements there's no chance legendary Godzilla would outmanuever him.

So if Legendary Godzilla gets knocked down by simply muto claws the barrage of shots he's get from heisei's atomic breath would have him on his back before he knew what hit him.

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