Godzilla Vs. Kong: Is It Going To Be A Good Movie Or Bad Movie?

@Gman

Without CG, I think GhidoraH fights would always be the same, I mean think about how many wires and tangles would happen if you wanted to achieve something differne than the normal (my exaggeration here:) floppy Ghidorah we have seen. That probably accounts for repetitiveness, the restrictions for such a wire dependent puppet.

ChrisRemix,
Agreed with everything you said. #TeamGoodMovie is more important than #TeamGodzilla or #TeamKong. I don't care who wins either as long as the film succeeds in what it's trying to do on all fronts.

Although, I find some recent comments from Wingard a bit worrisome.

SarcasticGoji,
Regardless of how it's executed, we've still seen it over and over. It's nothing new. If I'm to be honest, I found the confrontation in Godzilla: The Planet Eater more interesting due to King Ghidorah's terrifying circumstances and the impossibility of Godzilla being able to land anything on him. The stakes felt higher and the story made me actually wonder how he would be defeated.

I never worried about King Ghidorah being defeated in King of the Monsters, since the story established Godzilla had put him on ice before the movie.

SarcasticGoji, Gman, Jordan502.  ChrisRemix is right, I may be Team Kong but the real win is walking out of the theater (or turning off HBO Max, which will be me since GvK is coming to HBO Max and theaters in the USA) and say "This was a great movie."  Honestly, don't base your opinions on the failures of past movies.  Just look at the next and just be generally hyped.

Also Gman, Godzilla needed a fricking assist from Mothra to beat Ghidorah in KotM.

And King Ghidorah needed an assist from Rodan.

He was able to take on all three by himself in the Showa era.

Sonictiger

Well good thing i don't base my opinions on the past failures. Went in with my group of 6 friends and came out overly excited for what we watched. Holding our popcorn buckets themed in the KoTM movie. Talking about it days after with a smile on our faces. 

I genuinely enjoyed the movie, it gave me what i always wanted to see. Epic action on an epic scale that the originals couldn't give. For me that's all that matters.

I'd argue the originals had equally high stakes to be just as epic. Personally, I was bored.

@Gman

actually Ghidorah didn’t need an assist from Rodan, 

Godzilla and Rodan Never fought at all in that move. So in a one on one KOTM Ghidorah would win. 

Mothra and Goji would have defeated him but Rodan intervened making it again just Godzilla vs Ghidorah and Goji gets pummeled. So in a one on one KOTM Ghidorah would win.

Gman, you're worrying about the failures of the predecessors too much.  Give GvK a chance.

Jordan502, I really did like KotM too.  It gave me mostly what I wanted.  Action, scale, stakes, good casting choices, and awesome CGI.  The dialogue was a bit shaky, but I still finished the movie being thoroughly satisfied.  You're right. 

Ranking Ghidorahs from Least Powerful to Most

GMK

Hesei

Showa

Monsterverse - Yes more strong than Showa, Showa has nowhere near the speed, agility, or regenerative capabilities.

Anime

SarcasticGoji, THANK YOU.  Rodan just fought Mothra.  And then Mothra beat Rodan.  And Mothra transferred her powers to Godzilla because he got his butt kicked by Ghidorah.

Never watched the Netflix Anime btw.

Ghidorah Is OP,

but I wish we didn’t just see his heads. I wanted to see him descend on the helpless Godzilla earth in his full form

ok, but do ya think Mecha-King-Ghidorah will be in the MonsterVerse soon?

SarcasticGoji,
But the movie and director established that Godzilla had already defeated King Ghidorah in a one-on-one battle. Additionally, Dougherty also said had the Oxygen Destroyer not been launched, Godzilla would've won the battle with King Ghidorah in the ocean. When King Ghidorah was cornered by Godzilla and Mothra, he needed Rodan to take the heat off of him--So you just sorta proved my point. Furthermore, he retreated when Monarch attacked him in Antarctica. Not to mention it took awhile for three heads to hit one humvee... Showa Ghidorah would've just wiped the whole city clean in seconds.

Not a very impressive incarnation and the writers could've done a great deal more to make him seem more threatening and less of a bully.

sonictiger,
It's not so much that I'm worried about past failures, but they do inform future projects. I never once said I'm not giving Godzilla vs. Kong a chance, but after the letdown of the previous movie, my expectations are not very high. Which is probably for the best.

G.H. (Gman),

The movie still at least has a lot more to get behind, and KotM was much more of a movie that you needed to do your research on.  All you need to do for GvK is watch Kong: Skull Island and Godzilla: King Of The Monsters.  And think on the bright side, this movie does have a lot of hype attributed to it and it's a promising project.  The trailers have done a good job of selling the idea.  All it needs now is good execution for the whole movie.

sonictiger,
I concur. Hopefully it stands on its own as a solid film.

@Gman

The battle in the Antarctic was probably underwater, because Ghidorah would need to freeze so of course Goji won That one. Notice on my original list I said maybe, because it depends on the environment. And since people in this discussion started talking about land, I said what I thought would happen on land. I didn’t specify and that’s my fault. But the Rodan and Mothra comments are obsolete to this discussion.

And about impressiveness. I don’t know about you, but generating a cyclone around yourself is pretty impressive. And I like that Ghidorah was actuall at written as a Villain, and not a pawn.

Thanks Gman, hopefully GvK stands on it's own as a good movie.