Debate Week Season 5! Season Finale: Godzilla 2014 vs Biollante!

Please stop listing accolades from the book. The book and movie have differences so to say they're both cannon despite that doesn't make much sense. It's basically you picking and choosing the aspects from each version that you like then trying to reason how a hybrid of both is so strong. Any important, or valid info that the book had would have been taken to the movie since that is the media outlet that the vast majority of people would see. It makes no sense to have relevant important info and keep that to one small part of your audience that buys a book. The muto's regeneration, the permian impact, Godzilla breath being hindered are all things that aren't talked about in the movie in any way so I don't consider them cannon. In a manga Biollante fights Ghidorah in space and absorbs his DNA to become a hybrid of both. Do we not take that into account when talking about Biollante. No the same can be said about the G14 books.

Shaking a suspension bridge that's over a mile long does not equate to moving 400,000 tons. Biollante who is almost half the weight of the full bridge is much more compact so chances are, based off what we've seen he's not moving her. Definitely not going to manhandle her like he did the mutos, in most cases he'd probably be the one stepping back.

The fact the building falling on him even made him collapse is pretty telling of how this fight will go since Biollante got a hole blown in her bottom jaw, and atomic breath down the throat and didn't even slow down.

Godzilla's learning is questionable the only thing he actively appeared to do was use his tail to hit the muto which caused a building to fall on him so not exactly a genius we're dealing with sneaking up on the mutos is debatable since there was ner that opportunity prior to that there's no indication he's learned to do that, it was simply an easy hit, any animal, even the most basic, can ambush.

The main thing here is Biollante's immortal, possibly ever adapting. G14 has no chance killing this monster since no Godzilla has. Despite appearing in 3 different forms throughout the heisei era she never died. Even when SpaceGodzilla got hit by the spiral breath her spores still returned to space. So just curious, how will G14 manage to kill a monster than heisei couldn't even with various hits from the spiral breath? The very common "G14 loves to melee though and that'd work well against the beam spamming heisei monsters!" Doesn't even apply here since Biollante also loves to fight up close as evident by the fact she ran up to Godzilla in her movie when she could have very well sat back and attacked him with her tendrils.

Wolfguy- I actually definitively love Godzilla 2014, not just for CGI that is not a good statement and actually makes no sense. For a creature to be in CGI is an amazing thing, but the thing that is loved most about G 14 is he is closest to the suits as possible.

No one can actually say he has no standing in the series even though he has only appeared in one film.

Durp- Except Awakening was written by Max Borenstein who did the screen play.

Biollante wins. I love G14 but, Biollante has regenative healing like the 89 Goji. Probably going to be hated but oh well. :P

^ Ur not the only one who thinks Biollante wins, I think Biollante can rekt G14.

Borenstein wrote the screenplay of Godzilla he didn't write the story. If anything if Awakening and the books were truly cannon he would definitely have included his ideas into the characters words. I find it odd that the book he writes includes Castle Bravo, but the dialogue he gave a character specifically says that only kiloton nukes were used. 

That should be evidence enough that even he doesn't view the books as cannon to the movies, if he does then he has no idea how to connect them in even the slightest way, but since nothing in the movie that he wrote for gives evidence to connect to the comic he also wrote for you really have no leg to stand on.

I have to agree with Durp. There are aspects about Godzilla himself in the 2014 movie that are in direct contradiction of paper fiction. Furthermore mass fans probably would be going off the film and not the minor additions made in paper fiction.

But if you guys really want to include paper fiction, then you're going to have to do it both ways. Translated pieces of the Godzilla vs. Biollante script indicate that Godzilla's ray merely gives it more radiation and it mutates further. It also insinuates that it is a monster that continues to mutate and the final form wasn't necessarily its final mutation.

Add to the fact that Biollante is an immortal plant and you have a monster with abilities where the sky is the limit. But of course who wants to put those stats in there? It would give Biollante the edge and be a fair argument in conjunction with the non-film G'14 material. ;)

Well the movies themselves almost indicate Biollante could be ever evolving. You see her spores after SpaceGodzilla's death so one could view SpaceGodzilla as a 3rd form of her and with her spores still alive there's no telling what form they could take next. This is exactly why Biollante is in contention for strongest Godzilla monster, the only reason I could see a monster beating her is if they're like heisei Godzilla and have the healing ability to the point that by the time her spores reform her they'd also be perfectly healed. Of course without any healing to speak of much less to the level heisei had I don't see G14 having any chance of stopping Biollante in any sense.

Hey :). I never said G14 would win, i was just correcting some mistakes that peopl say about his abillities. I usually dont post on Debate Week, but those posts irk me.

I agree with the others Biollante wins, but only after a close battle.