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Does Godzilla (2014) really need a sequel?

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Spinojira

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-07-2014 11:01 PM

The other day I was seeing a discussion and people started sharing their opinions about a theme that I had been thinking about a long time...

Does this Godzilla movie really need a sequel?

I don't want to sound harsh or anything, I would like to see as more Godzilla as much as anybody else, I just think the idea is just unesserary. One of my biggest concerns is that the "Shock and Awe" factor is one of the mayor elements in this film and it will be lost with sequels. Take "Jurassic Park" or "The Matrix" for example. They astounded audiences with a great story, great execution and amazing special effects. But once audiences are impressed like that, it can not be repeated since they have already seen it, so the "Shock and Awe" factor is lost, making the sequels feel uninspired and forced. The sequels weren't horrible, they just didn't live up to the expectations (I enjoyed the Jurassic Park ones).

It will also depend heavily on the story and script, which, if a great idea doesn't emerge, it will also feel uninspired and forced.

An argument people can have is: "If superhero movies get sequels, then why Godzilla shouldn't? He too has a lot of lore!" While characters like superheroes and others have background stories full of elements that can be usted in various movies to tell, Godzilla doesn't exactly have that. This movie was stated to be a stand-alone movie without the intension of sequels. So, if its a great story, maybe its better if it is left alone. It would be great if we could see some of the classic monsters back, but they would have to make a great story with them so they are not just there for the sake of having them there. Even some of the old Godzilla movies were bad because they just forced them. Throwing in a monster for him to fight and a simple story.

One of the members of the site proposed a very good idea. He (or she) proposed that a good idea for a sequel, or even a series, in which we see the aftermath of Godzilla being in our world. How we manage to survive while Godzilla is out there causing havoc and maybe even fighting more monsters. Kind of like "Dawn of the Planet of the Apes". I thought that was brilliant. It gave a good reason to do other realistic Godzilla movies.

I don't want to sound bitter or offend anybody. I am just sharing my opinion and if you are fixiated in a sequel, its your opinion. I am just worried that sequels come out bad and sink Godzilla down. If the movie turn out to be fantasic, then I think it should be left alone if there aren't even better ideas for other movie. Nothing forced. I would love to see more Godzilla movies, but only if they are done right.

What do you think about a sequel? Don't be afraid to share your honest opinion! Do you have any good idea for a sequel? I would really like to hear it! Feel free to comment!

(I can't believe this movie is less than 10 days away!)

"Its a Tyrannosaurus."

"I don't think so... It sounds bigger. It sounds like death; the destroyer of worlds...."

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The Weaver

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-08-2014 12:43 AM

It will all depend if this movie is good and successful. Gareth has said that he would be more than happy to jump in a continuation should people want it. While the concern that sequels would simply just sink Godzilla down is understandable, sometimes, when movie directors really have visions on what they want with ideas ready to be utilized, sequels can really add more onto a story. When they are passionate and perfectly executed, they make the whole thing a much greater epic narrative, which how I see it, is exactly what Godzilla deserves. And from the love and care that Gareth clearly has put through, it is very safe to say that he is a qualified visionary director.

Godzilla needs a story that rivals Hollywood's greatest epics, but unless it's a three hour standalone movie (Which it isn't), only with a series can it now accomplish that.

In my opinion, these days, Hollywood is heavily saturated with endless non-stop superhero movies. It's time to introduce the next best show to the world.

 

 

Madison

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-08-2014 2:09 AM

I mean, Godzilla 2014 doesn't NEED a sequel. But I'm sure most of us would like one :-)

There is nothing wrong with a sequel so long as it is actually a fresh idea/good story. 

I mean you're right, once they've revealed Godzilla and had him fight, they've kind of jumped that shark, and won't be able to capture that same awe in another film. The key is make sure a sequel does more than just revisit old themes. 

Like with Jurassic Park, the first movie was great. The second movie was much weaker. But the second movie wasn't weak just because it existed. It was weak because it had no new ideas, nothing new in terms philosophical or scientific conundrums, so it was trying to bank on amped up action sequences alone. 

In the 'Lost World' book, they break new ground with new scientific ideas and different debates than what we saw in the first movie, and overall it was a very good book. For example, Ian Malcom is STILL a brilliant cautionary scientist in the book, and his scientific content actually MATTERS but is DIFFERENT from what he presented in the first entry (focusing more on evolution and prions disease and how it affects the dinosaurs rather than chaos theory and breeding).

As opposed to the movie, where his status as a mathmetician is completely irrelevant, as his character basically only does the father/ex-husband thing...which made Ian Malcom interchangeable with almost any other character/actor they could have written for the part. 

I'm not trying say the second book is better or anything like that. The first book is still superior, but the second book is actually good on its own merit, instead of just some shallow action/adventure piece like the second movie was.

The differences between the first and second book compared to the first and second movie outline the differences between good and bad sequel making. Sequels themselves are not inherently bad, they just need to be done right instead of shoehorned in. 

Bringing it back to Godzilla, if they make a new Godzilla, it has to be more than just bigger and longer monster fights. It will need new ideas. It's not impossible for Gareth/Legendary to come up with some good ones. They will just need to take the time and effort to do so, instead of falling into the easier path of making a cheaper, simplistic cash grab like so many studios do.

As far as what some good sequel ideas might be, a Monsters type scenario, where they look at the world people have to live in now as a result of these monsters existing (a 10-30 years later thing...in a world less reliant and nuclear and electrical power), and tell a character driven story within that.

Gareth Edwards has already discussed wanting to do a 'Monster Island' type idea, where the humans try to lure and contain the monsters isolated from human society.

I personally think exploring that 'subterannean' world that these monsters came from might be pretty cool. Especially now that actual real world science is finding increasing evidence of underground 'oceans'. Like so the movie could mainly focus on people exploring/mapping this new world where the monsters come from, and of course we find out that there are many more alive.

 

Durp004

MemberBaragonMay-08-2014 5:00 AM

Well to be fair the monster island idea definitely brings back a shock and awe, if anything the current movie will promote that. In this movie we have 3 monsters, 2 of which are on the same side, that basically wreck the western part of the US. To throw say 8 monsters all of which have their own agenda into the world would be a huge royal rumble. Right now its fair to say for the most part since there are so few it's not as much humans vs monsters as it is the US vs monsters. Sure they show parts of japan I'm guessing from the trailers, and there might be a few other attacks, to adding in 7 other monster to terrorize the world really raises the ante.

 

Until I've seen the movie and seen all the plots that are left unexplored or not ellaborated on I can't say if a movie "needs" a sequel, but judging by the monster island idea, and just the fact a world with giant monsters has a lot of directions it could go I think that 1 sequel would be fine and help the film out in most cases. Now a trilogy I'm not quite sold on.

RagnarZilla

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-08-2014 8:37 AM

Who's to say? Does a peacock really need all those feathers?

 

Of course I haven't seen it, but I personally would want to see another - even several - as long as it doesn't dillute the character and we don't get "The Matrix Effect" (someone alluded to that earlier) or the Spider-Man Syndrome™, which is having too many meaningless plot cul de sacs, WAY too many villains, and more sequels just for the sake of the franchise.  I think we're going to have that last one with the Man of Steel sequel.

junkerde

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-08-2014 8:43 AM

"Need"? nope.

but do we "want"? Yes.

Daikaiju Danielle

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-08-2014 9:08 AM

Let's see the movie first, sweetheart.

"Daddy's home- cake every night,"

Something Real

MemberGodzillaMay-08-2014 9:55 AM
SPINOJIRA - You raise an excellent question. Indeed, "does Godzilla need a sequal"? The answer, in my opinion, is hazy. As many people have already wisely pointed out, it all depends on if the first film does well and if there is anything left to be said without feeling hum-drum. In the end, I'd say we should see the first film to start and then begin making suppositions about future installations. Of course, I'd love to see more Godzilla any day! However, that doesn't mean I'd want to see a rushed movie as you eloquently stated. :)

Murph Dog

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-08-2014 10:14 AM

it all depends on if the movie is successful or not

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